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I HATE CHM !

#1 User is offline   theGate 

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Posted 31 March 2008 - 04:29 PM

I hope BBL and other eBook group will continue to post Oreilly, Addisson, prenticeHall ..... in PDF :sweatingbullets:

I really hate chm

The best is PDF for everything ...
printing, reading searching name it :sorcerer:

Anyway good job guy :thumbsup:

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Posted 31 March 2008 - 05:07 PM

But when it comes to copying code from PDF files, that's an even greater hassle!
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Posted 31 March 2008 - 06:01 PM

Yes but I usually print the eBook

I prefer read a real book instead of read on a LCD monitor ...

I know thats a matter of taste but I still hate chm format :devil_2:

And no decent chm to pdf exist ....

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Posted 01 April 2008 - 01:08 PM

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Yes but I usually print the eBook

printed ebook > cost of real book unless with the help of corporate printer <_<


btw chm release wasn't that bad, it has a good search function thought.
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Posted 01 April 2008 - 02:39 PM

View Postfyrefx³, on Apr 1 2008, 01:08 PM, said:

printed ebook > cost of real book unless with the help of corporate printer <_<


Exactly. Before printing an ebook I would buy it.
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Posted 07 April 2008 - 12:52 AM

its not that bad. i like chm, its bit faster to browse. pdf lags like hell.
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Posted 07 April 2008 - 05:20 AM

View Postmarkwaugh, on Apr 7 2008, 02:52 AM, said:

its not that bad. i like chm, its bit faster to browse. pdf lags like hell.


I had the same feeling until I installed FoxIt PDF reader, now 50MB pdf runs lightning fast :sorcerer:
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Posted 08 April 2008 - 01:25 AM

Frozen Night,

Nice, i didnot know such Addon existed for pdf that could make it faster. I am going to try it. Thanks
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Posted 08 April 2008 - 03:49 AM

View Postmarkwaugh, on Apr 8 2008, 06:55 AM, said:

Frozen Night,

Nice, i didnot know such Addon existed for pdf that could make it faster. I am going to try it. Thanks


Foxit is standalone PDF application just like Adobe PDF reader, its not Addon.

Try it yourself, you wont regret.
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Posted 08 April 2008 - 05:16 AM

Link: hxxp://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/reader_2/down_reader.htm

One tip. The first time you start FoxIt click Help --> Check for updates now. Then select JPEG2000 plugin and install it :)
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 07:14 AM

Well, here's a techie note:
Most of those books come from Online libraries and those libraries offer an html version of the book that is identical to what you see in a chm.

CHM can be similar to PDF soon that CSS is becoming more supported by the major browser, but it won't be before about 4 to 5 years when CSS 3 is supported that CHM can be similar to PDF.

I prefer PDF's, I don't print any books and therefore I like PDF versions. Sometimes buying the books is impossible(reading Salman Rushdie in the Middle East for example), and that's when a PDF comes in handy.

CHM also destroys the natural arrangement of the books in PDF. Actually, I think it's why some publishers release their books in CHM. So that you will still need a hard copy even if you have a CHM eBook on your desk.
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 09:55 AM

View Postalpha, on Apr 10 2008, 07:14 AM, said:

Actually, I think it's why some publishers release their books in CHM.

The CHM format was primarily created as a more superior .HLP help file for Visual Studio/software documentation, utilising HTML standards. But to say "some publishers release their books in CHM" is hilarious because CHM ebooks is exclusive to LiB, DDU, BBL. They know what's involved, and all respectz to them.
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 05:06 PM

View PostKick Ass K, on Apr 10 2008, 09:55 AM, said:

The CHM format was primarily created as a more superior .HLP help file for Visual Studio/software documentation, utilising HTML standards. But to say "some publishers release their books in CHM" is hilarious because CHM ebooks is exclusive to LiB, DDU, BBL. They know what's involved, and all respectz to them.


I was not referring to the individual teams, I was referring to websites like Student Consult and Net Library. Where publishers actually are in control, I still buy genuine books, and believe me, Robbin's Pathology that you download is nothing compared to the organization and the clearance of the actual textbook.

Some users here mentioned that they buy books instead of printing CHM's, which is my opinion what the publishers want you to do. It's like how you can get 128 kbps mp3's off the Internet, but you have to pay if you want the full quality of the CD(unless you download lossless releases, which is a different story). :)

Peace!
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 03:15 AM

MS Press books usually comes with a CD, which has full book in CHM format.
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 05:40 PM

View Postalpha, on Apr 10 2008, 05:06 PM, said:

I was not referring to the individual teams, I was referring to websites like Student Consult and Net Library. Where publishers actually are in control, I still buy genuine books, and believe me, Robbin's Pathology that you download is nothing compared to the organization and the clearance of the actual textbook.

Student Consult is bascially a "free" medical lib like other subscription-based IT libs. On the web, one will have seem numerous medical titles in CHM format obtained from Student Consult. So the only ppl in control are the handful of medical students who understand the relationship between HTML and CHM, and have spidered their way to generate CHM for medical students around the World. Being medical students, their understanding of CSS is non-existant, hence the outputted CHM is not of the standard one expects from LiB, DDU, or BBL. Nonetheless, the CHMs save $$$ for the poor med student.

View Postprabhak, on Apr 11 2008, 03:15 AM, said:

MS Press books usually comes with a CD, which has full book in CHM format.

M$ Press used to enclose the ebook in CHM up until 2002/2003, but now they supply books in PDF on the accompanying physical book's CD.

Any recent M$ Press ebooks in CHM are courtesy of BBL. ;)
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Posted 15 April 2008 - 09:47 AM

http://www.foxitsoft...df/rd_intro.php

View PostFanjamon, on Apr 15 2008, 07:42 AM, said:

@Frozen Night



Can you tell me the link to download FoxIt, I would like to try it?

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 10:39 PM

M$ Press used to enclose the ebook in CHM up until 2002/2003, but now they supply books in PDF on the accompanying physical book's CD.

Any recent M$ Press ebooks in CHM are courtesy of BBL



Should be interesting to get them in PDF. Maybe we could set up a group buy.
Every one involve buy 1 Microsoft book and share the pdf :)

thanks
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Posted 16 April 2008 - 11:02 AM

View PosttheGate, on Apr 15 2008, 10:39 PM, said:

M$ Press used to enclose the ebook in CHM up until 2002/2003, but now they supply books in PDF on the accompanying physical book's CD.

Any recent M$ Press ebooks in CHM are courtesy of BBL



Should be interesting to get them in PDF. Maybe we could set up a group buy.
Every one involve buy 1 Microsoft book and share the pdf :)

Team-SaG have in the past rlz many M$ CDs as apps in BIN format. Let's hope they continue the trend with the various recent/upcoming Windoze Server 2008 Resource Kits. :fingers crossed:
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Posted 23 April 2008 - 08:25 AM

Either format is okay for me. What I need is the content of the book, not the format.
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Posted 23 April 2008 - 11:52 AM

View PostWayne, on Apr 15 2008, 11:47 AM, said:




Here you go Wayne :)
http://www.filehippo.com/download_foxit/

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